http://lvb.net/english.php LVB.net - English en http://lvb.net/skins/base/rss20comment.png http://lvb.net/english.php http://lvb.net/item/5618#66335 Comment from [ joe] --- errr right :-) (don't blame it on sunshine, blame it on the boogay) Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:57:00 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#66321 Comment from [Nicolas -(uitgelogd)] --- Joe wrote: even with a flemish sounding family name, speak flemish at home. You mean: even with a flemish sounding family name, speak french at home. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:59:07 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#66316 Comment from [ joe] --- @Dutchman in Brussels Can you explain why the financially better off families in Flandern speak French at home. Many of the old rich spoke French and still do. Take a look in the Humo and see who are the wealthiest families in Flanders, well, many of them, even with a flemish sounding family name, speak flemish at home. I happen to know a few of them personally, and although they speak french, they feel very flemish, some even want the separation. (for purely economical reasons, of course!) Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:20:37 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/6026#66265 Comment from [Noclegi Ustka : www.morzeustka.com] --- Realy interesting subject. Thanks for the videos, really much appreciated! Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:40:40 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/3017#66175 Comment from [BaaDamn : baa_damn@yahoo.com] --- So anyways I'm back after a year and I'm am still the final one that posted here DX Well see you next year same time same place XD Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:24:40 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#66159 Comment from [Verheijen : arandano20@yahoo.co.uk] --- Tis tijd dat de vlamingen en de limburgers en de brabanders in belgie de stekker uit belgie steken en het stopcontact Brussel meenemen.Nooit Nooit zal brussel tot Wallonie horen .Over het lijk van de Nederlands sprekende.En daarna het frans uitroeien in het gebied Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:38:07 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5757#66118 Comment from [ GeckoArt : arnaud@medinalma.be] --- 1) What's the point with commuters? Who cares about them? These people are not the inhabitants of Brussels and they do not pay taxes in Brussels ! The people paying (expensive) taxes because they live in the 19 communes of Brussels should be the only ones accounting as bruxellois and I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them speaks french. Commuters shouldn't have anything to say about Brussels, they just take advantage of the city without any contribution to it's maintenance. 2) Me Neyt should really consider the suburbs where arrogant and frustrated dutch speaking people do everything in their power to piss off the french speaking population. 3) Is it the french speaking people's fault if very little people on this planet want to speak dutch? It's not even a unified language! Dutch speaking people from Antwerpen or Hasselt don't even seem to understand each other... What's the point of this language in a context of global internationalisation ? 4) We are not going to remain passive in this. If the dutch speaking people of Belgium want separation, then the only right and democratic thing to do is a referendum in which the INHABITANTS of each commune of Belgium declares their language of choice... If the majority of the inhabitants of a commune declare they are french speaking, then that commune should be considered as such. If the majority of the inhabitants declare they are dutch speaking, then that commune should be considered as such. I'm all in favor of a separation (Since my birth, for 35 years, I've been hearing about it and am growing tired of all the energy wasted in stupid talks !). If it has to be done, let's do it and stop wasting so much time, money and efforts. Let's have a referendum and let the people choose! That's the only democratic way of doing things. Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:54:08 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5757#65958 Comment from [Allen : manudrh@yahoo.com] --- Brussels is a French-speaking city. The fact is that the Dutch-speaking are feeling lonely in Brussels and try to dissolve the reality ... That's exactly what is TRYING to do Freddy Neyts ... Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:42:47 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#65934 Comment from [Krist] --- @Dutchman in Brussels. People from Limburg communicate with people from West Flanders without any problem. People from West Flanders communicate with people from Amsterdam without much trouble, and without having to switch to a foreign language. That proves they speak the same language. Most people in Flanders are able to speak standard Dutch (with an accent, true). The differences between the Netherlands and belgium (and I have lived in both) are smaller than those between Germany and Switzerland (I am now living in Switzerland). The Swiss do not consider their language different from that of the Germans. Brussels is a bit different, as many people who are able to speak the local flemish dialect never had any formal education in Dutch, and thus indeed don't know standard Dutch, but they are not the norm. Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:15:00 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#65683 Comment from [Dutchman in Brussels : Dutchman@brussels.be] --- @Krist: After living in Brussels for over 40 years, I think I can judge if Flemish is Dutch or not. When I'm in Limburg or Zeeland or Groningen, people do speak their regional language BUT also correct Dutch. It has never happened to me in the Netherlands that I don't understand someone, however this morning at the local Sunday market here in Brusssels, it did happen once more. To prove that Flemish_is_NOT_Dutch, though it has the same base (like all germanic languages) here are some examples. In Holland you will NEVER hear expressions translated directly from French like tis te zeggen (c'est à dire), het belt (il sonne) instead of de bel gaat , stationeren (stationner) instead of parkeren, wadde? instead of wat? . Many other examples could be given. I'm not saying that nobody should have an accent. There are lots of accents in the Netherlands too, like is the case in every country. I'm saying that if people in Flandern would also speak a correct version of Dutch the language would be taken more seriously. Some 30 years ago it was quite possible to speak Dutch in Brussels. Now try to speak Dutch at the cashiers of the Delhaize or the Carrefour in Oudergem. Even in Overijse, when you go to the local Krefel, the sales people start by saying Bonjour monsieur without even trying Dutch. I get Belgacom sales reps at my door who ONLY speak French, though I live in a (bilingual???) Brussels community. If you go to the community hall in a Brussels community to get your identity card, you will get a french card if you do not ask specifically for a flemish one! Everyone with a french card is francophone in the statistics. Now the question: how come French is more dominant in Brussels? Can you explain why the financially better off families in Flandern speak French at home, but they tell me they also speak dialect (meaning they can also speak the language of local people)? Sun, 06 Jul 2008 21:25:36 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#65383 Comment from [Krist] --- @Dutchman in Brussels: For your information: Flemish _is_ Dutch. It is as much Dutch as Limburgs, Zeeuws, Drenths or Gronings. And you are making a caricature when you are saying that Flemings can't communicate with someone from the next village over. This is simply not true Flemings from all over Belgium communicate just fine. The average Fleming is able to speak a Dutch that is as correct as the language of the average Dutchman. With a different accent and a preference for some words that might sound strange to a Dutchman, but are therefore not automatically wrong. Learning Dutch as a foreigner is not useless in Flanders, as many foreigners who did this can tell you. That public TV applies subtitles to Dutch shows is indeed a pity, as it is entirely not needed, and gives the completely false impression of Dutch and Flemish being separate languages. Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:19:50 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5618#65380 Comment from [A Dutchman in Brussels : Dutchman@brussels.be] --- For your information: Flemish is indeed NOT Dutch. The Flemish are proud to speak a dialect. The cannot even communicate between themselves while living in villages only 5 km apart! If they would speak Dutch correctly, there wouldn't be a problem. If you would learn Dutch as a foreigner in Belgium, you would hardly be able to use it. The Flemish themselves can't: Flemish TV subtitles Dutch TV series! 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They were nice peaceful villages until your Herrenvolk came living there, now they are fighting for their independence from that cesspool you call la capitale , yes capitale de la merde is more like it. Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:55:49 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/6343#64842 Comment from [traveller] --- @ luc Congratulations, you did it again, and how. Marvelous, in such a short time. Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:42:03 -0500 http://lvb.net/item/5757#64778 Comment from [dendof] --- Man, zeik toch niet en leer Nederlands als je in Vlaanderen komt wonen. Anders bol je het maar terug af over de taalgrens. Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:49:05 -0500